that is absolutely true. But no one, and I mean no one with the exception of a few diehards will actually play on such a server for more than 6 months. It has no legitimacy, you guys can just close the doors tomorrow and be gone, no one could blame you. So yes, there is an effort to be done by the players to level up and progress, BUT you're not an official server.
oh I did, more than you can think of. And I killed more of them that I could ever count.
Yes, venos were a problem for most, BUT it was not the class it was the broken bleed from the nix. A no-nix veno was most of the time a 3 shot (well, 2 shot cause the first one was killing the pet).
yes, endgame. When they can reroll stats for PvP cause they don't have anything else to do, and in instances they're only good for pulls and amps.
starting on wrong foot doesn't help.
What you guys did with the server was/is pretty bad for a starting economy on a private server, here's a few points:
1. you should have never removed mats from boutique. Herbs? meh. Mats? WTF? That's a source of income for you and for the players that start after launch it's a way to put in money and not waste time gathering so they catch up in level. If everyone has to spend the same amount for the same character development as the first people on server then they will never catch up unless they play the same amount of time. Time saving for them is money for you and means more players endgame which makes everyone happy. Except a few dumbasses I won't name here 'cause reasons.
2. prices of mounts/flyers. You guys are so adamant about old/classic version blah blah, but you put 3.3 or more fliers in the boutique ???? That's not how you start an economy. Sell the basic flyers at low prices so people get some satisfaction. As soon as server has an economy then introduce the expensive one for higher prices.
3. Venos and legendary pets: yes, phoenix is a problem in a PvP server, but the herc is not. A veno with herc is a kickstarter for any private server. It can help tank a lot of content, including all FBs/BH up to 69 plus some world mini-bosses and elites. This helps players progress, it helps with the feeling of accomplishment. What you guys did? you set them at a totally inaccessible and not worth price of 200$ for a pet, and besides you made them a minimum of lvl 70. WTF??? a veno besides bramble amp and mob pull is useless after 90. Endgame any class is better than veno to have in pretty much any instance, and PvP even the nix doesn't matter anymore unless you suck.
"oh no, but if we have legendary pets there won't be a pet market". OH YEAH, there is now one with 5 venos online.
A max 50$ hercules with no level restriction would have helped the whole server progress faster while also slowly phasing out its utility endgame. People that know what they were doing would have got them and used them properly. You would have got hundreds more $ in your pockets while everyone would have profited in the pixel world. But naaah, why would you do something like that.
I for one as much as I loved the server in Beta I can't play on it. For some reason your game (and I play WoW, They are Billions, CS:GO, Diablo3, XCOM2, Path of Exile, Assetto Corsa, GRID and F1-2018 to name just the icons I see outside my browser window) crashes out of the blue without any message, nothing. I tried for weeks to fix it and I gave up, it's just not working properly no matter what I do. Every other game is perfectly fine.
I loved this game, and your server was looking promising. I could hardly wait to play on it. Too bad you guys messed it up with useless changes to accommodate some crybabies and are now to proud to accept you made a mistake.
that is absolutely true. But no one, and I mean no one with the exception of a few diehards will actually play on such a server for more than 6 months. It has no legitimacy, you guys can just close the doors tomorrow and be gone, no one could blame you. So yes, there is an effort to be done by the players to level up and progress, BUT you're not an official server.
That is absolutely and factually not true. There are at least 2 other servers, russian servers, that have the exact same rates and model and same gameplay, just as slow and hard to get to 100 and end-game gear, and
they've last over 4 years with 1000+ online at the time, so check your facts before you throw your own opinion like it's a fact, when it's most definitly not.
And if you look at the numbers, this server is growing quite fast, and increasing in population every single day. And with all the advertisement out right now, those numbers are going to go up even faster.
oh I did, more than you can think of. And I killed more of them that I could ever count.
Yes, venos were a problem for most, BUT it was not the class it was the broken bleed from the nix. A no-nix veno was most of the time a 3 shot (well, 2 shot cause the first one was killing the pet).
That's just not true at all. Veno's have equivalent good pets with Dragon Temple skills, and HA veno is very much viable in the version. Veno's are broken exactly by having access to herc and nix below level 70. Besides those 2 legendary pets have the stats that they did in 1.3.6, not the 1.5.2 version of them, so they're not that necessary to have. And arguably not even the best.
yes, endgame. When they can reroll stats for PvP cause they don't have anything else to do, and in instances they're only good for pulls and amps.
Veno's are the most useful class after clerics and barbs, early-game, mid-game and late-game. They're excellent at PVP both HA or Arcane, and they're always useful for pulling, amplify and debuff. They're a must-have in TWs and mass PK, and they can also solo TT (even 3-3 with rare scroll skills) by themselves in squad mode, which makes them the most useful class in the game across the board. The fact that you say that just makes me think you've never really played this version or much of this game at all.
Now let's get into your arguments as to why the server started on the wrong foot.
1. you should have never removed mats from boutique. Herbs? meh. Mats? WTF? That's a source of income for you and for the players that start after launch it's a way to put in money and not waste time gathering so they catch up in level. If everyone has to spend the same amount for the same character development as the first people on server then they will never catch up unless they play the same amount of time. Time saving for them is money for you and means more players endgame which makes everyone happy. Except a few dumbasses I won't name here 'cause reasons.
You literally contradicted yourself in that statement. The fact that donators also have to farm for the mats just makes it more balanced time-wise because even if you donate you still have to go pick up mats like everyone else. Also selling mats or herbs in the boutique so early onto the server would result in people buying absurd amounts of mats for TT openers for example, while the free to play players would take weeks to farm the same amount of TT, so I really can't see your point as to why it's a bad thing.
Also donators would have the ability to sell said mats in their catshops for whatever price they'd like which would inflactuate the economy by so much, that it would cause everything, especially directly, the much needed TT mats to a point where lower levels would never be able to afford them.
Also, end-game doesn't mean everyone's happy. It's the journey to end-game that really is enjoyable.
2. prices of mounts/flyers. You guys are so adamant about old/classic version blah blah, but you put 3.3 or more fliers in the boutique ???? That's not how you start an economy. Sell the basic flyers at low prices so people get some satisfaction. As soon as server has an economy then introduce the expensive one for higher prices.
3.3 flyers are not very impactful in the game as it's literally just 0.3 more speed. They also cost more perfect stones to refill. And to once again disagree with you, that has nothing to do with starting an economy. Flyers and mounts don't start an economy or even make part of the economy unless they're a rare one from a pack. 3.3 flyers and pretty flyers are not needed, they're simply cosmetic and a quality of life. The reason why they're expensive is so the owners can make some money from the people that have the extra dollars to spend on a better flyer, without impacting everyone else.
Also, there are basic flyer at max speed (except the 3.3 flyer) at less than 50 gold, which is pretty much reasonable, as it's a one-time purchase.
3. Venos and legendary pets: yes, phoenix is a problem in a PvP server, but the herc is not. A veno with herc is a kickstarter for any private server. It can help tank a lot of content, including all FBs/BH up to 69 plus some world mini-bosses and elites. This helps players progress, it helps with the feeling of accomplishment. What you guys did? you set them at a totally inaccessible and not worth price of 200$ for a pet, and besides you made them a minimum of lvl 70. WTF??? a veno besides bramble amp and mob pull is useless after 90. Endgame any class is better than veno to have in pretty much any instance, and PvP even the nix doesn't matter anymore unless you suck.
"oh no, but if we have legendary pets there won't be a pet market". OH YEAH, there is now one with 5 venos online.
A max 50$ hercules with no level restriction would have helped the whole server progress faster while also slowly phasing out its utility endgame. People that know what they were doing would have got them and used them properly. You would have got hundreds more $ in your pockets while everyone would have profited in the pixel world. But naaah, why would you do something like that.
Once again, I 100% disagree with your point as you're literally contradicting yourself, and I can already tell if you were able to play you'd be a veno, hence why you're feeling so personally attacked and salty by the legendary price.
There are many other pets like the Magmite that tank nearly as much as the herc, and I happen to be in a FB69 run with a veno right now that can pretty much tank everything in it at level 69 with her Magmite pet. There is absolutely no need for an herc to tank anything besides 3-2 and 3-3 end-game with the Dragon Temple skills.
If legendary pets didn't have a level requirement and costed 50$, everyone would play veno, which is already the
most actively played class, and it would be even more unfair for everyone else of other classes, because there wouldn't even be a need for tanks or clerics, which there is right now and promotes teamwork, which is awesome.
So to boil what you said down, you just want venos to be absolutely broken and easy to play from level 1 to 100 so you wouldn't have to worry about anything.
And assuming you're a veno player, which I strongly believe you are, to say that venos are not useful in end-game dungeons, is absolutely ridiculous. Venos are the single most important member of a part in every end-game dungeon because of their ability to pull mobs and bosses, and their debuff and amp, and the reflect buff which is 100% essential on a barb for example in Lunar.
I loved this game, and your server was looking promising. I could hardly wait to play on it. Too bad you guys messed it up with useless changes to accommodate some crybabies and are now to proud to accept you made a mistake.
They haven't messed up anything at all, and they haven't accomodated anyone either. It's a hard grind and hard to level for every single class equally, and if anything, venos are the only class that have it easier in all aspects, especially in grinding air mobs with esotericas and questing.
Even without the legendary pets, they still manage to farm twice as fast as any other class in the game, and they're required for pretty much any dungeon so far, from 29 to 69.
Adding onto to that, I haven't seen a single person complain about anything's done or structured besides the charm cost,
which was reduced by half in the latest patch.
All in all, with all due respect, I think you're just ranting because you didn't have it your way, which is a bit hypocritical considering how you call out the owners for "appealing" to everyone else but you. I suggest you step outside your entitled veno box and look at things how they are, and factual information, rather than personal opinion.